ASSP - Minor Problem I can't correct

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ASSP - Minor Problem I can't correct

Post by codamedia » 2006-02-12 18:42

I currently have the latest version of hMail Server, and ASSP 1.1.1 working perfectly together - almost!

This is all in a test environment and ASSP is set up strictly in test mode. I have an old defunt email account that gets a lot of spam (in excess of 100 per day) so it works perfectly for training.

1: When I test the account with a real message from one of my other accounts (from a remote location/server, not locally) it is fed through ASSP, and a copy is placed in the ASSP "Not Spam" folder.

2: 95% of the spam coming in is getting tagged [Spam] in the subject, and they are all appearing in the ASSP "Spam" folder.

> All of this works great and as I expected, BUT

3: 5% of the mail I am getting is not getting tagged as [Spam], even though it is (this is what the training is for I know). Too complicate matters, it is not going to the ASSP "Not Spam" folder so I cannot easily move it to the "Spam" folder! I have to dig it out of the "hMail" folder system which is not easy to find! All of these emails do have the HEADERS tagged with ASSP info so I know it has passed through ASSP, but it is not copying to the "Not Spam" folder for easy reference.

Has anybody else ever encountered this? Any help would be appreciated.

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Post by ric melia » 2006-02-13 10:42

you need to set the "External OK mail" folder in ASSP. i had it set as c:\assp\other during testing. ASSP will put the 5% that you have to dig up in this folder...

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Post by codamedia » 2006-02-13 17:40

Thanks for this info. I have setup the folder and will give it a try. I was fooled by my own external tests! Once they cleared, they were all copied to the "notspam" folder. I assumed all messaged that passed would have been placed here.

I'll post an update in about 24 hours.

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Post by iprat » 2006-02-13 18:03

You are strongly advised to upgrade to ASSP 1.1.2b1 wich is really the actual stable release of ASSP.

The 5% ratio of SPAM not tagged is usual in 1.1.1 as it has a bug that when a spammer tries to send several messages inside a unique SMTP session it will succeed to bypass ASSP 1.1.1. Only the first message is rejected but all the following get through until the SMTP session is closed.

Please upgrade to 1.1.2b1 or have a look the ASSP forums as this is a known issue of 1.1.1.
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Post by codamedia » 2006-02-13 20:47

I would love to, but from the ASSP site I only see 1.1.1 available. Where can I get 1.1.2b1. I don't see it anywhere.

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Post by CraigHarris » 2006-02-13 21:11

codamedia wrote:I would love to, but from the ASSP site I only see 1.1.1 available. Where can I get 1.1.2b1. I don't see it anywhere.
It's available on sourceforge as source, or on another site pre-built -- I've manged to not keep the bookmark, but the ASSP forum certainly contains some links to it.
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Post by codamedia » 2006-02-13 22:26

The tip by "ric melia" worked 100%. It's acting excactly the way I thouht it should to begin with.

Why is 1.1.2B not recognized as Stable yet if so many users consider it is. I have a "No Beta" rule on any of my production servers - and I must admit I am very relunctant to make the update prematurely. This server is still in "testing" (it will be my first server with hMail/ASSP) but I am hoping to get it up in the next week! Is 1.1.2B really worth the update despite being Beta?

Any insight on this?

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Post by CraigHarris » 2006-02-14 02:36

They "released" 1.1.1, then fixed the bugs in 1.1.2B, but they hardly ever do any development on it - it never seems to get updated -- basically 1.1.2B is way more reliable than the previous versions.

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Post by codamedia » 2006-02-14 02:53

Thanks. I'll give it a go on this server. Seems like most people are happy with it - I have noticed a few complaints, but the "forum" support seems really good.

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Post by iprat » 2006-02-14 10:46

I obtained the update from here:

http://www.free30.com/pczerkas/

The reason why it is not tagged as oficially stable seems to be related to the fact that the head developers have this projects frozen. Maybe some day they'll put 1.1.2 oficially stable and start releasing 1.1.3 betas... I really don't know.

The fact is that 1.1.2b1 is the "de facto" stable release of ASSP. We've been using it for the last 4 months without any issue.
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Post by koumdros » 2006-02-14 15:07

hm... so if we have the 1.1.1 we jsut overwite the files with the ones in the "upgrade" package?

or do we use the install package?

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Post by iprat » 2006-02-14 15:52

I used the upgrade zip package and just extracted all inside the ASSP 1.1.1 installed directory.

It is very important to also extract images directory in a new images directory inside ASSP directory or the web interface will not work. It seems some people got confused and placed images files inside the ASSP directory an thus would not be able to open web interface.

In my case it was a 30 seconds operation: stop ASSP service, extract zip to a temporary location and copy all the contents (files and images folder) to the ASSP directory, then start service again and working.

It is important to note that ASSP 1.1.2b1 needs perl 5.8 and won't work with 5.6. Also a few have faced problems with a bug when the site was a UTC time (time zone 0). There are some posts there explaining that issue and a simple patch.
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Post by associates » 2006-03-07 05:55

Hi Iprat,

I have a question here in regards to ASSP. I have just installed it on Hmailserver 4.2, activeperl 5.8, latest squirrelmail 1.4.6 on XP machine.

I have followed all the steps for the ASSP configuration described in the ASSP documentation. I have changes the SMTP Port from 25 to 125. I can send with no problem and (i think, Sorry i say i think because i run this on other machine, not on the mailserver machine mainly only for the sake of testing just before changing the mailserver in the near future) receive emails too.

It now comes to testing whether the ASSP works or not. I can actually see in the folder 'ASSP/notspam', there are a couple of messages (I'm happy) but my question is is there a better way to test it with spam messages to see if it works or not.

If you don't mind me asking, where can i get spam and non-spam messages so that i can do basic test. Sorry for asking this dumb question but i really like to learn.

In regard to building ASSP database, I'd like to know if one day our spam and notspam folder will get overcrowded with mails. Not sure if they can be deleted just to minimise the number of mails in those two folders. my question is by deleting the mails from those two folders, would it affect the ASSP database that we run rebuildspamdb.pl daily?

Thank you very much in advance.

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Post by associates » 2006-03-07 06:09

Hi again,

I read the ASSP documentation in regards to forwarding the spam emails by users. It says that if one of users received spam messages, he can report it by just forwarding to assp-spam@mydomain.com. hmmm... my question is where does it go to? does it go to the folder assp\spam that we just created in the first place? because i tried it but none that i saw there.

Thank you in advance

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Post by iprat » 2006-03-07 10:12

No, they go to assp\error\spam.

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