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Win 10 Enterprise force lnstalls Updates/Upgrades to

Post by Dravion » 2018-05-02 01:17

In Default mode, even with restricted Telemetry services, Windows 10 Enterprise doesnt ask you for Major Version Updates like 1709 to 1803!
It will download the entire new Operating System and installs a complete New Windows 10 Major Release. Your can postpone the rollout max.
180 Days before it will forecefully installed. All Data and Privacy Settings will be set back to default, so you must ReDisable all Telemetry and Spying Features again. For the new Major Release 1803, some Users are allreay complaining about Driver Problems.

Hint:
Some Windows 10 Enterprise Customers are thinking, Windows 10 Enterprise will provide you some options regarding forced Upgrades but
this isnt true. The only way, are so called Tellermachnie Releases Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB but i didnt checked it.

Summay:
Win 10 Enterprise is the most costly Version of Win 10 but there is no benefit above Pro or Home Edition regarding hMailServer or TCP/IP
Networking Apps in generell. If you use ShutUp10 or Search and Destroy AntiBeacon your must ReRun all Privacy protection immunization again,
to completely disable Win10 spying features, because Win10 will track your Win10 System, even if you disable all Datacollection Options in
Windows 10-Systemsettings.
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Re: Win 10 Enterprise force lnstalls Updates/Upgrades to

Post by mattg » 2018-05-02 02:23

Is there any Linux that includes an office suite, Web Browsing and RDP client, that installs as easily as Windows, and is as easy for Noobs to use as Windows? where noob = Someone like my 75+ year old parents


Ubuntu is close, but just not quite there I don't reckon. Still only nerds using it
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Post by Dravion » 2018-05-02 04:00

Yes.
Ubuntu has LibreOffice installed after Installation, its easier to Setup a Printer, you dont need to download and install Network or Moterboard Drivers etc. because it works all from the beginning, you dont have to defragment your Harddisk to avoid slow Harddisk Performance, System and App Updates are just working and for Remoteadministration you can use Teamviewer for Linux and for Webstuff you can.use Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Seamonkey, Konquerror and Evolution, Thunderbird, Geary or just Browserbased Webmail and it doesnt need silly restarts after for example a Officesuite installation.
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Post by Dravion » 2018-05-02 13:37

Ps Win 1803 just fucked up my Audio Drivers and 20 GByte Windows.old Folder on my C:\ Drive which cannot be deleted without hacking.Cool.

I allways tought, if you use the expensive Enterprise Edition for Business Customers, you will not get all the Home Consumer
crap and fuckups - but this is clearly wrong. You pay more, but you get the same shit.
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Re: Win 10 Enterprise force lnstalls Updates/Upgrades to

Post by mattg » 2018-05-03 02:54

One of my clients has windows 8 embedded on less than 2 year old HP thin clients (as sold by HP)

The thin clients have 8 GB SSD.

They are constantly failing due to HD being full, but only if you allow windows updates. Don't do updates then they work fine. Just not secure.

Mind you, with Ubuntu and an auto configured new hard drive, the boot partition is very quickly too small, because 'Sudo apt-get autoremove' is not done as a normal part of updates. Boot partition just fills and machine fails until you manually resize boot partition (and remember to run 'sudo apt-get autoremove' regularly. Not for the feint of heart.

Certainly not for noobs
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Re: Win 10 Enterprise force lnstalls Updates/Upgrades to

Post by Pawlowic » 2018-05-05 14:51

This is my number 1 gripe with Windows 10. Their force updates always seem to break something. Not to mention the creators updates. Don't even get me started on those lol.

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Post by Dravion » 2018-05-05 16:49

It seems like Windows 2012/2016 and the new 2019 Server is the only way to get away from this forced upgrade crap and a stabil Server OS Situation.
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Post by SorenR » 2018-05-05 22:23

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Will remember changes between updates, you only need to run it after the update to see what changes were made and then re-do them.
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Re: Win 10 Enterprise force lnstalls Updates/Upgrades to

Post by ShiningDragon » 2018-05-12 21:50

Dravion wrote:
2018-05-02 13:37
(...) and 20 GByte Windows.old Folder on my C:\ Drive which cannot be deleted without hacking. (...)
It's because there's a file left from the Edge Browser: "LocalState.." <- Double Points at the end. This can only be deleted via 8.3 namespacing. Close the Windows Explorer, open up a command prompt (not PowerShell!) with admin rights and enter: "rd /s /q \\?\C:\Windows.old" (without the quotes).

This should help your situation, if it's not fixed already. I had the same on all "feature upgraded" installations.
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Post by Dravion » 2018-05-13 03:48

I deleted it by command line tools like the 3 Major Upgrades before. Its just a complete retarded method of upgrading a Operating System. As a Software Developer myself i cannot stand such messy crap.
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Post by mattg » 2018-05-13 07:08

I just got asked (Windows 10 Pro) to uninstall Avast so that Defender updates could happen

Can we port hMailsevrer to Linux
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Post by Dravion » 2018-05-13 10:36

It would be possible but we need at substitute for the COM-API and VBScript like LUA-Script.
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Post by Dravion » 2018-05-13 12:01

Some ideas about porting hMailServer to linux and how this project could make sense:

In the Linux World nowdays, if you want something like hMailServer your need to install one of the following
Software combinations:

Postfix SMTP-Server + Dovecot (POP3/IMAP) Server
Exim SMTP-Server + Dovecot (POP3/IMAP) Server
Sendmail SMTP + Cyrus (POP3/IMAP)-Server

Thats the most common Situation on almost any Linux System and even Mac or Unix-System nowdays.

Problem:
All above Softwarepackages are extremely complex and need a lot of practice configuring and maintaining and troubleshooting/supporting such installations. You really must be a command line lover and Unix Shell sort of Person, because there is almost no GUI or Easymode Installation like hMailServer. If you know how, you can archive allmost everything but if you not a Posfix or Exim Pro/Guru you are in a World full of pain.
The most complexity comes from the seperation of SMTP and POP3/IMAP Server. A Admin on Linux needs to connect for example the Postfix SMTP Server to a Dovecot POP3/IMAP Server via the LMTP (Local Mail Transport Protocol) or UNIX-Sockets (a File which is in fact a sort of shared memory Interprocess communication) or a diffrent Subsystem like PAM, ect. As i said, its a real pain in the ass, if you a complete Noob or Newbie.

Features
Sendmail was one of the first SMTP Server decades (40 Years ago) and is still in active duty but has lot of security Problems in the past. It was allmost entirely replaced by its more modern rivals like Postfix and Exim. But both SMTP-Servers are trying to emulate Sendmail in many aspects
and this can lead to some sort of troube. For example, you allmost forced to use specific folders on your Harddisk. Its allmost not possible to
simply change or alter it. So you in some sort of trap and you cannot run two seperate instances of Postfix/Exim + Dovecot/Cyrus because they try to use the fixed Folder destinations. Postfix has a new feature called multiinstancing, but its risky and problematic in itself.

However:
hMailServer has its Data Folder and you can redirect it where ever you want and you have a nice GUI to Setup the entire Mailserver in a very cool and easy way. I think it makes a lot of sense porting hMailServer espacially for newbies and small/midsize business cases.
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