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Post by jimimaseye » 2020-06-05 09:15

I'm old enough to have seen examples of most things that can and make the news in one form or another (eg space ship our cruise ship disasters, tsunami or earthquake devastation, oppresion and military war and genocide, kidnaps, murders, rapes etc etc).

Sadly we have had stories like this far too many times. But this is the first time I've seen the footage target than just the after effects and reaction. And i was left appalled and shocked.

Up to now we only saw the photograph of the actual moment (kneeling) but photos don't allow the emotion of the event or paint the full picture of before and after. Watch this and see if you think you can still sympathise with Chauvin when he comes to giving a defense:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/g ... ation.html

(Good help America if they don't convict him - the current protests will be party compared to what is likely to be if they don't. )
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Post by palinka » 2020-06-05 13:34

He won't be convicted. Guaranteed. Why? They charged him with a crime he didn't commit: murder. Why? Why can't they appropriately charge him to make sure they get a conviction?

I've noticed a pattern. In all racial grievance cases, the prosecution always overcharges, just like they did with Chauvin. They did it with Zimmerman, they did it in the freddy grey case, the Eric Garner case, the Michael Brown case. All the high profile ones. All acquitted. All of these cases were brought in Democrat cities with Democrat mayors and prosecutors. I think they're trying to provoke a riot. You can't tell me a prosecutor with decades of experience doesn't know that overcharging ends with acquittal. Or that they haven't seen the results of overcharging in all of these other cases.

The only logical deduction is that they want acquittal. So why do they want acquittal?

I'm not advocating acquittal nor am I defending this guy. In fact, I'm advocating the exact opposite: reduce the charges to convictable ones to make sure he goes to jail. What they're doing now guarantees he'll walk. Wait and see.

There's a clear pattern here. They want riots.

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Post by jimimaseye » 2020-06-05 14:02

They want riots.
Ah. Silly me. Forgot there must be a conspiracy somewhere to distract from the point at hand.

Good job you are here to remind me.

(Interesting suggestion that Democrats want riots. But why? It can be political Aston pay Republicans as Zimmerman, freddy grey, Eric Garner and Michael Brown were all killed under a Democratic government.) No discussion required.

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Post by katip » 2020-06-05 16:04

days after, forensic report mentioned 1st degree murder.
at first, that cop was arrested for 3rd degree murder suspect(!).
what justice does one expect?
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Post by palinka » 2020-06-05 16:19

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days after, forensic report mentioned 1st degree murder.
at first, that cop was arrested for 3rd degree murder suspect(!).
what justice does one expect?
A conviction and prison sentence would be a good start. Not going to happen with a murder charge.

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Post by palinka » 2020-06-05 16:33

jimimaseye wrote:
2020-06-05 14:02
They want riots.
Ah. Silly me. Forgot there must be a conspiracy somewhere to distract from the point at hand.

Good job you are here to remind me.

(Interesting suggestion that Democrats want riots. But why? It can be political Aston pay Republicans as Zimmerman, freddy grey, Eric Garner and Michael Brown were all killed under a Democratic government.) No discussion required.

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Sorry, autocorrect mangled that one badly enough that I missed your point.

I don't know the why. I'm only guessing they believe they can capture power if there's civil unrest. But I'm not a mind reader. Unless they tell you, there's no authoritative answer.

Another possibility is that they're simply trying to protect cops. It's not completely unreasonable to believe politicians spew vitriol against the cops to satisfy their voter base, while secretly acting in a manner to protect police. I think that's less likely given the players involved, but its at least plausible.

However, the pattern is clear. All (or nearly close to all) high profile racial grievance cases in Democrat cities result in overcharging by Democrat prosecutors resulting in acquittal. The people involved and the charges, the trials, etc are all very well documented. You don't have to take my word for it.

If you have a better explanation for the why, I'm all ears.

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Post by palinka » 2020-06-05 16:55

Another possibility I just ran across.
...overcharging would be particularly effective in a case with multiple defendants. By overcharging, one defendant is more likely to open up about the actions of a co-defendant.
But I think in this context, it's more about the threat of consecutive sentences. Not necessarily severely overcharging like turning manslaughter into murder.

Not to mention they were just cops doing their jobs. Not only will they stick together, but all they have to do is tell the truth anyway. It's not the kind of situation where you're trying to coerce bank robber A to rat out bank robber B where the confession makes up the bulk of the evidence.

In this case there are multiple video recordings and multiple coroner reports including one done independently by the family - which only agreed with the other two reports. There is no possible way to get a murder conviction. Zero percent chance. Even manslaughter would be extremely difficult.

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Post by SorenR » 2020-06-05 22:40

No problem ... Trump pulls the Insurraction Act card, it collides with the 2'nd Amendment so before we know it world economics is settled in Yen and Huawei become the market leader in 5G networks ...

Just a FYI ... Statistics say that there are 120 guns per 100 americans ... Should give a loud enough bang for us the hear it in Denmark.
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Post by palinka » 2020-06-05 22:59

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No problem ... Trump pulls the Insurraction Act card,
I don't think he'll do it. Not for the reasons you said. He's also playing hardball politics. He's forcing Democrat states to deal with the issue. They don't want to because they think they can somehow force trump out if the looting continues. This will cause internal problems within these states because regular people of all political stripes won't put up with it for long and will demand immediate reform. Remember - the riots are only in states that voted against him. And not one of those states wants trump's help - they've all publicly rejected the idea of bringing the military in (national guard is controlled by the states and governors can activate them in their own). Now they own the rioting and looting lock, stock and barrel and trump can hammer them all day long about how they own it. He still comes off as the law and order guy, not the riot guy. He's going to win in a landslide.

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Post by mattg » 2020-06-05 23:12

jimimaseye wrote:
2020-06-05 14:02
They want riots.
Ah. Silly me. Forgot there must be a conspiracy somewhere to distract from the point at hand.
What if this social media frenzy is all fed from a foreign power trying to destabilise an outspoken opponent during a pandemic. The world seems pretty sure that at least one foreign power played 'pot stirrer' via social media during the last US presidential election - who's to say it is not happening again now? Perhaps there are some countries that have learned new tricks.
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before we know it world economics is settled in Yen and Huawei become the market leader in 5G networks ...
Hasn't that happened already...
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Post by jimimaseye » 2020-06-05 23:34

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2020-06-05 22:59
He's forcing Democrat states to deal with the issue. They don't want to because they think they can somehow force trump out if the looting continues.
Nah. Nonsense.

There are 50 states with protests. Kind of makes you wonder how Republicans got to the whitehouse with so many states in democratic power. (Or maybe this just raises other questions about the craziness of the American voting system where more people individually voted for Hilary Clinton than the Trump and yet..... )

And your claim makes no sense: trump will not FORCE local state democratic government to act when they know that if they don't act then he will be the bad guy by sending in the military (With exception of similar like minded hard headed Republican voters).

Looking forward to November elections. A time for the U.S to get back what little dignity it had before 2016. :roll:

But then.... it's bollocks and not everything has to be a conspiracy and about political party fighting. Funny reading the ramblings of the paranoid though.

400 years of racism needs sorting - this topic is about humans and civilisation, not the fucking colour of your political party! See it for what it is... if you can. (And if you watch that video and says to yourself "he deserved that" then these protests are about YOU. (And this applies beyond American borders).

I'm done.
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Post by jimimaseye » 2020-06-05 23:37

mattg wrote:
2020-06-05 23:12
jimimaseye wrote:
2020-06-05 14:02
They want riots.
Ah. Silly me. Forgot there must be a conspiracy somewhere to distract from the point at hand.
What if this social media frenzy is all fed from a foreign power trying to destabilise an outspoken opponent during a pandemic. The world seems pretty sure that at least one foreign power played 'pot stirrer' via social media during the last US presidential election - who's to say it is not happening again now? Perhaps there are some countries that have learned new tricks.
The point of my thread was to show the reality of the actions on motion film, not photographs and headlines, so people can 'feel' and understand what went on, not WHY it went on. And it wasn't to start throwing conspiracies and political arguments (which are getting lame and boring).
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Post by palinka » 2020-06-06 01:19

jimimaseye wrote:
2020-06-05 23:37
The point of my thread was to show the reality of the actions on motion film, not photographs and headlines, so people can 'feel' and understand what went on, not WHY it went on. And it wasn't to start throwing conspiracies and political arguments (which are getting lame and boring).
That's awesome. Easily verifiable facts are now conspiracy theories.

I have a theory that clouds conspire to make rain. And rabbits conspire to make fuzzy tails.

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Post by SorenR » 2020-06-08 15:49

I have to agree with a friend of mine re the post below ... On a personal note I feel BLM outside USA behave like a criminal/terrorist organisation. They got issues with US Law Inforcement - not Danish police or German police or Latvian police. Stay the f*** home.

And all this bloody "racism" people are screaming about all the time... If I call a non-white person LAZY, I'm not a RACIST, I'm simply RUDE. Deal with it!
I think it's embarrassing. We are all a product of our time and times change constantly. Yes, Edward Colston made - together with a lot of other people - money from trading slaves, but his fortune was founded trading in wine, fruits and cloth. More importantly - he was a member of Parliament and donated wast amounts of his fortune to public Schools, Hospitals and Almshouses. The slave trading might be abhorrent seen with today's eyes but it was perfectly legal and acceptable at the time and it is - like it or not - part of our history.

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Post by harmonmonic » 2020-09-24 10:00

I have to agree with a friend of mine re the post below ... On a personal note I feel BLM outside USA behave like a criminal/terrorist organisation. They got issues with US Law Inforcement - not Danish police or German police or Latvian police. Stay the f*** home.

And all this bloody "racism" people are screaming about all the time... If I call a non-white person LAZY, I'm not a RACIST, I'm simply RUDE. Deal with it!

I think it's embarrassing. We are all a product of our time and times change constantly. Yes, Edward Colston made - together with a lot of other people - money from trading slaves, but his fortune was founded trading in wine, fruits and cloth. More importantly - he was a member of Parliament and donated wast amounts of his fortune to public Schools, Hospitals and Almshouses. The slave trading might be abhorrent seen with today's eyes but it was perfectly legal and acceptable at the time and it is - like it or not - part of our history.

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Some of the BLM movement make bigger issue than "black discrimination". The impression is that this is another reason to spread anarchy, looting anf lawlessness. This behavior only throws wood into the fire of "racism". I think the problem is at the root of social organization, not police lawlessness..
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Post by SorenR » 2020-09-24 11:52

As someone who lived and worked in Singapore I can only say ... 那个 ... Wa lao eh !
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Post by jimimaseye » 2020-11-07 19:34

palinka wrote:
2020-06-05 22:59
He still comes off as the law and order guy, not the riot guy. He's going to win in a landslide.
Well, that worked then. 🤣
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Post by mattg » 2020-11-08 00:42

Trump has nearly 10% more votes than last election, notwithstanding that Biden has more, a 10% increase would seem like a landslide is about to happen.
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Post by jimimaseye » 2020-11-08 00:51

mattg wrote:
2020-11-08 00:42
Trump has nearly 10% more votes than last election, notwithstanding that Biden has more, a 10% increase would seem like a landslide is about to happen.
"Percent more than last time" means jack as you have to compare it to total vote count. This has been the highest vote turnout in American history. At least Trump can claim responsibility for that... mainly because of the amount of people that didn't want him back and his supporters knew it and had to vote to try to ensure a win.

I say "try". 🤫😄

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Post by palinka » 2020-11-08 01:32

jimimaseye wrote:
2020-11-07 19:34
palinka wrote:
2020-06-05 22:59
He still comes off as the law and order guy, not the riot guy. He's going to win in a landslide.
Well, that worked then. 🤣
After the fraudulent votes are discounted, its a landslide by any definition.

I don't know what the fake news in Europe is saying, but its probably the same as here.

"JoePedo declared winner!!! Let's party!!!"

Declared by who? The fake news? That's precisely as meaningful as ME declaring MYSELF the winner.

I'm the president! I declared myself winner! Bow down before me!

There's still a long road ahead to determine who the president is. Only the electoral college declares who is the president. Not the fake news. The fake news can declare anything they want. It doesn't mean that is even remotely close to reality.

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Post by jimimaseye » 2020-11-08 01:41

Yep. Right on queue. :lol:


Not proclaimed but 'projected'. The media, including the Holy Always-Truthful-Never-Fake Fox News, simply report the inevitable based on the factual statistics of counts so far and what is remaining. It's simple maths (with an S !). After all, it was good enough for the out going president 4 years ago to claim victory to on the night so why not this time.

(I guess an astronomer telling you when the next eclipse is going to happen is also fake and they have no right, and only the physical event makes it legit.) Fair enough. I foresee disappointment ahead for you though.

Viva la Tr.... err, no, forgotten. :mrgreen:
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Post by palinka » 2020-11-08 04:10

Its very simple. Its the same process as when you have any dispute. If you feel that you have no chance or that you've genuinely lost, you simply concede. Has that happened? No. Any idea why? Spare me the pop psychology.

Be patient. Its not over. Trump will win.

The fake news is doing everything they can to demoralize Trumps supporters and by all accounts they're succeeding. However, its just smoke and mirrors without any basis whatsoever in reality. The fake news is the Wizard of Oz.

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palinka wrote:
2020-11-08 04:10
Its very simple. Its the same process as when you have any dispute. If you feel that you have no chance or that you've genuinely lost, you simply concede. Has that happened? No. Any idea why? Spare me the pop psychology.

Be patient. Its not over. Trump will win.

The fake news is doing everything they can to demoralize Trumps supporters and by all accounts they're succeeding. However, its just smoke and mirrors without any basis whatsoever in reality. The fake news is the Wizard of Oz.

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Post by palinka » 2020-11-08 04:34

Don't look behind the curtain and don't look inside the sausage factory.

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Post by jimimaseye » 2020-11-14 10:58

palinka wrote:
2020-11-08 01:32
After the fraudulent votes are discounted, its a landslide by any definition.

 Its not over. Trump will win.
Erm:...
* In Arizona, his team dropped a lawsuit seeking a review of ballots cast on Election Day after it became clear his rival's lead was unassailable. The challenge was based on a claim that some legal votes had been rejected

* In Michigan, a judge rejected a request by two Republican poll watchers - who had alleged fraud in Wayne County - to block the certification of election results in Detroit

* In Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the Trump campaign's requests to invalidate several batches of mail-in ballots were rejected
It's going well. 😆. Still, at least the has Alaska (if you want to accept projections. If you don't, then you are still waiting for a single confirmed vote to come in December and is going to be a big surprise to you. 😂)
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Post by palinka » 2020-11-14 14:27

jimimaseye wrote:
2020-11-14 10:58
palinka wrote:
2020-11-08 01:32
After the fraudulent votes are discounted, its a landslide by any definition.

 Its not over. Trump will win.
Erm:...
* In Arizona, his team dropped a lawsuit seeking a review of ballots cast on Election Day after it became clear his rival's lead was unassailable. The challenge was based on a claim that some legal votes had been rejected

* In Michigan, a judge rejected a request by two Republican poll watchers - who had alleged fraud in Wayne County - to block the certification of election results in Detroit

* In Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the Trump campaign's requests to invalidate several batches of mail-in ballots were rejected
It's going well. 😆. Still, at least the has Alaska (if you want to accept projections. If you don't, then you are still waiting for a single confirmed vote to come in December and is going to be a big surprise to you. 😂)
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Post by jimimaseye » 2020-11-22 23:48

Trump has finally won something this year.


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Post by jimimaseye » 2020-12-15 10:27

palinka wrote:
2020-11-08 01:32
jimimaseye wrote:
2020-11-07 19:34
palinka wrote:
2020-06-05 22:59
He still comes off as the law and order guy, not the riot guy. He's going to win in a landslide.
Well, that worked then. 🤣
After the fraudulent votes are discounted, its a landslide by any definition.

I don't know what the fake news in Europe is saying, but its probably the same as here.

"JoePedo declared winner!!! Let's party!!!"

Declared by who? The fake news? That's precisely as meaningful as ME declaring MYSELF the winner.

I'm the president! I declared myself winner! Bow down before me!

There's still a long road ahead to determine who the president is. Only the electoral college declares who is the president. Not the fake news. The fake news can declare anything they want. It doesn't mean that is even remotely close to reality.
It seems the "fake" news turned out to be not ago fake (surprise surprise). It's seems the electoral college thought the same.

BBC News - Electoral college confirms Joe Biden's presidential victory
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55308526

Or are we still waiting for this amazing repubmican supreme court overrule. Oh, no, it seems they agree too.

The good news: you were right about there being a landslide. But i don't want to be the bearer of bad news and tell you where you were wrong. 😉
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Post by palinka » 2020-12-15 13:38

jimimaseye wrote:
2020-12-15 10:27
It seems the "fake" news turned out to be not ago fake (surprise surprise). It's seems the electoral college thought the same.

BBC News - Electoral college confirms Joe Biden's presidential victory
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55308526

Or are we still waiting for this amazing repubmican supreme court overrule. Oh, no, it seems they agree too.

The good news: you wetter right about there being a landslide. But i don't want to be the bearer of bad news and tell you were you were wrong. 😉
You need to stop relying on the fake news. They are liars. This is not over and I guaran-damn-tee the Potemkin president will never be seated.

And the supreme court is not the avenue that will get Trump re-inaugurated. Despite what the fake news tells you, there is a process that does not end with electors sending their ballots and certifications to Washington by registered mail. There is much more to the story than the fake news is telling you. Its easy pickings - all you have to do is look. This is not conspiracy theory stuff - its all written in the Constitution, the electoral history of the US, etc. All you have to do is a simple goolag search to find it.

PS - guess who counts the electoral ballots.

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Post by katip » 2021-01-07 09:02

Phew, Congress occupied! This in USA!
But if the demonstrators had been black, I think their fate would not have been the same.
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Re: Floyd

Post by jimimaseye » 2021-01-07 13:56

palinka wrote:
2020-12-15 13:38
And the supreme court is not the avenue that will get Trump re-inaugurated
You got that right. His attempts failed miserably.
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there is a process that does not end with electors sending their ballots and certifications to Washington by registered mail.
Yeah, in tends to end when the vote have been certified by Congress (which, by the way, was always going to happen and the news has been predicting would. So turns out to be not so fake after all).

Oh look, they have certified it.
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This is not over and I guaran-damn-tee the Potemkin president will never be seated.
ermmm.....

Are we still waiting for the "thats not official and Trump will be the next president" moment?
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Re: Floyd

Post by palinka » 2021-01-07 14:17

jimimaseye wrote:
2021-01-07 13:56
palinka wrote:
2020-12-15 13:38
And the supreme court is not the avenue that will get Trump re-inaugurated
You got that right. His attempts failed miserably.
They're displaying their corruption.
palinka wrote:
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there is a process that does not end with electors sending their ballots and certifications to Washington by registered mail.
Yeah, in tends to end when the vote have been certified by Congress (which, by the way, was always going to happen and the news has been predicting would. So turns out to be not so fake after all).

Oh look, they have certified it.
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This is not over and I guaran-damn-tee the Potemkin president will never be seated.
ermmm.....

Are we still waiting for the "thats not official and Trump will be the next president" moment?
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Re: Floyd

Post by SorenR » 2021-01-07 18:05

palinka wrote:
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That image is very telling about the atitude of american sites... IT DON'T WORK IN EU! HINT: GDPR!

They don't care about privacy and you are no longer a person but a comodity! EU don't allow that so they simply don't respond to EU clients.

On the other hand ... They are soo stoopid they allow proxy servers ... DOH!

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Post by jimimaseye » 2021-01-07 18:40

Ill be honest: its lost on me. If it was meant to be making a point or hint it failed. It's just a picture of a sign.
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Re: Floyd

Post by palinka » 2021-01-07 22:59

SorenR wrote:
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That image is very telling about the atitude of american sites... IT DON'T WORK IN EU! HINT: GDPR!
Maybe your ISP is filtering badthink. Or reallybadthink.

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Re: Floyd

Post by palinka » 2021-01-07 23:04

jimimaseye wrote:
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Ill be honest: its lost on me. If it was meant to be making a point or hint it failed. It's just a picture of a sign.
I'm just going to leave it at this: I still firmly believe that this election is not going to turn out the way you think it will (or has).

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Re: Floyd

Post by jimimaseye » 2021-01-07 23:14

Maybe not. Because i think trump will be removed before inauguration day of Joe Biden. And then he will eventually be arrested and end up doing a stretch. But yes I may be wrong - he might not be removed before inauguration day. But the rest remains.

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Re: Floyd

Post by jimimaseye » 2021-01-20 19:41

palinka wrote:
2021-01-07 23:04
I'm just going to leave it at this: I still firmly believe that this election is not going to turn out the way you think it will (or has).
Hmmmm.... seems I was wrong as predicted. He wasnt removed before inauguration day - it looks like his impeachment will be completed after the event. Other than that, everything as predicted by the fake news happened:

Biden won.
Election called.
Fraud claims debunked.
Biden inaugurated.

Seems the fake news news wasnt so fake after all.

So just exactly what was supposed to happen that didnt?
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Re: Floyd

Post by palinka » 2021-01-20 20:23

jimimaseye wrote:
2021-01-20 19:41
palinka wrote:
2021-01-07 23:04
I'm just going to leave it at this: I still firmly believe that this election is not going to turn out the way you think it will (or has).
Hmmmm.... seems I was wrong as predicted. He wasnt removed before inauguration day - it looks like his impeachment will be completed after the event. Other than that, everything as predicted by the fake news happened:

Biden won.
Election called.
Fraud claims debunked.
Biden inaugurated.

Seems the fake news news wasnt so fake after all.

So just exactly what was supposed to happen that didnt?
I'll give you all except the fraud claims. They were definitely not debunked.

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Re: Floyd

Post by jimimaseye » 2021-01-20 20:40

palinka wrote:
2021-01-07 23:04
jimimaseye wrote:
2021-01-07 18:40
Ill be honest: its lost on me. If it was meant to be making a point or hint it failed. It's just a picture of a sign.
I'm just going to leave it at this: I still firmly believe that this election is not going to turn out the way you think it will (or has).
What exactly was you so adamant about and expecting to happen?
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Re: Floyd

Post by palinka » 2021-01-20 22:25

jimimaseye wrote:
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What exactly was you so adamant about and expecting to happen?
Since it obviously didn't happen, then it's no longer relevant or important.

One thing is for sure, the status quo cannot last long.

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Re: Floyd

Post by jimimaseye » 2021-01-20 22:47

palinka wrote:
2021-01-20 22:25
jimimaseye wrote:
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What exactly was you so adamant about and expecting to happen?
Since it obviously didn't happen, then it's no longer relevant or important.
Ah you mean the militia style storming that was thwarted.
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Re: Floyd

Post by palinka » 2021-01-21 05:26

jimimaseye wrote:
2021-01-20 22:47
palinka wrote:
2021-01-20 22:25
jimimaseye wrote:
2021-01-20 20:40
What exactly was you so adamant about and expecting to happen?
Since it obviously didn't happen, then it's no longer relevant or important.
Ah you mean the militia style storming that was thwarted.
No, that was a false flag. Totally fake. Not only that, but it was so obviously a trap that everyone of influence told their audiences to a) don't believe a word and b) don't even think about showing up. And not only that, it was so obviously fake event but real trap that only an extremely stupid person would have shown up.

As far as I'm aware, nobody at all showed up, which was the smart thing.

However, a lot of soldiers turned their back on the fraud president when his motorcade went by. So there was the flash of a silver lining. We'll see how things progress.

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Post by SorenR » 2021-02-26 20:17

You all remember Bernie Sanders using Denmark as an argument for socialism...

Well...
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It turns out Denmark is more capitalist than USA... Socialists my a***** :mrgreen:
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Re: Floyd

Post by jimimaseye » 2021-04-20 23:15

palinka wrote:
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He won't be convicted. Guaranteed. Why? They charged him with a crime he didn't commit: murder.
Oh dear. Another prediction far off the mark.

(8 weeks to go for sentencing but now already detained in custody. He might as well get used to it out at least until he wins his appeal based on the technicalities that has screwed the trial (but the facts and evidence cannot be changed) . What with this and the Trump predictions I would avoid taking up fortune telling for a hobby).

Why do i continue to pick up and respond to these comments? Because i can't stand injustice and comments that inflame and antagonize against the general calm of 'the right thing to do'. Law, science, common sense and general order must always be given the weight it deserves in a modern society and broadcasting objection, rejection and opposition boils my blood (quickly cooled by the relief from laughter I get reading the hairy fairy premonitions and then the final truth to disprove them).

'Low hanging fruit' it may be. Perhaps if it wasn't fed such fertiliser of verbal manure then it wouldnt grow to be there to be picked.
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Post by SorenR » 2021-04-20 23:47

Yeah, saw that on the news ...

What I noticed was all the aggression amongst the black women in particular ... Wonder who's up next? This is going to be #metoo V2. If you violated a black criminal 30 or 40 years ago you'd better watch out! Social media will judge you and sentence you!

Fcuk I'm glad I'm not living over there.

We have had some issues as of late with Banditos and a street gang called NNV killing each other but they are actually having peace talks somewhere in Spain (of all places) supervised by Hells Angles :!: .
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Post by jimimaseye » 2021-04-20 23:56

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Yeah, saw that on the news ...
I've watched the trial every day live on tv from the jury selection right up to verdict. (Still watching now as the prosecution team make a press statement). I'm not very popular with the missus for hogging the tv. At least she can have some screen time back now.

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Post by SorenR » 2021-04-21 01:12

jimimaseye wrote:
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SorenR wrote:
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Yeah, saw that on the news ...
I've watched the trial every day live on tv from the jury selection right up to verdict. (Still watching now as the prosecution team make a press statement). I'm not very popular with the missus for hogging the tv. At least she can have some screen time back now.

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The Second Amendment was to protect the citizen from the big bad "STATE" ...
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Post by mattg » 2021-04-21 04:06

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I've watched the trial every day live on tv from the jury selection right up to verdict.
Why is this televised?

Live mass broadcast makes this look like what we call a 'kangaroo court', a court used to rubber stamp a pre-determined decision.
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Re: Floyd

Post by palinka » 2021-04-21 04:13

jimimaseye wrote:
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He won't be convicted. Guaranteed. Why? They charged him with a crime he didn't commit: murder.
Oh dear. Another prediction far off the mark.
There's a first time for everything.

Murder requires intent and premeditiation. That's true everywhere in the world. They are observably not present in this case.

The result is clear. The jury was intimidated into railroading an innocent man.

Since you watched most of it, you probably saw the prosecution's closing argument. I watched a few minutes of it. The prosecutor, in an attempt to make the charge of 2nd degree murder stick, argued that Chauvin was assaulting floyd. Think about that for a second. All police work involving belligerent perps has now been made illegal. Effectively policing is illegal outside of politely asking criminals to come to jail. That's the outcome. No jury in a sane world would go for that. They were obviously intimidated by the crowds outside the courthouse, by grandstanding politicians ginning up the crowds, probably by direct intimidation as well, and by the history of rioting, doxxing, assault and murder over the past year.

I'm still expecting riots because you can't satisfy the mob. They're already talking about not going far enough, why didn't they charge the other cops, etc. They riot because that's what they want to do.

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Post by SorenR » 2021-04-21 10:11

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Murder requires intent and premeditiation. That's true everywhere in the world. They are observably not present in this case.
Second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

All non-intentional but disrespectfull of the life of others. He took responsibily for the mans life as a police officer when he detained him and he failed.
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Post by jimimaseye » 2021-04-21 10:47

palinka wrote:
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you probably saw the prosecution's closing argument. I watched a few minutes of it. The prosecutor, in an attempt to make the charge of 2nd degree murder stick, argued that Chauvin was assaulting floyd
I watched ALL of the trial - all evidence and witnesses. And then I formed an opinion . That's how courts and jury trials work. Decision is made on facts, not just after a 3 minute snippet. Just as the jury did.

He did make the argument and was justified to do so.

The EVIDENCE was clear and unequivocal. And that's why he is facing 15years (hopefully)
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Post by palinka » 2021-04-21 11:58

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The EVIDENCE was clear and unequivocal. And that's why he is facing 15years (hopefully)
That's true, as I pointed out so long ago in the autopsy report.

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Re: Floyd

Post by jimimaseye » 2021-04-21 12:16

mattg wrote:
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jimimaseye wrote:
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I've watched the trial every day live on tv from the jury selection right up to verdict.
Why is this televised?
The idea being that the public can see that justice is being done correctly inside the court room and that jury's are using evidence put to them and not just hysteria from public and media. So if the verdict went different to what they wanted at leastit t was clear that the decision was fair based on how the lawyers put their case across and not how the media put the case across.

I have done jury service personally so fully understand how the inside of a courtroom works. Unfortunately the majority of the public have not and they only ever rely and respond to what they see and hear in the media. So for them to see the internals of a courtroom hopefully will ease the situation if the verdict goes different to how they want it to be.
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Post by mattg » 2021-04-22 02:01

Yeah, I've done jury duty too (Not something I'd recommend)

I've also sat in court public galleries, and seen the work of the lawyers, the lies and mistruths and more.
I've seen Judges with premeditated opinions and social ideals. I've seen victims appear to be punished, and career criminals seem to walk away unscathed and laughing.

And yet I trust the system to do its job, to an extent

I personally don't agree that this case should have been televised, and I think there was far too much media coverage of both the original incident, and the court trial, for any jurer to not be influenced by the coverage.

I do believe that all deaths in police custody should be reviewed independently by the courts.
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