Windows 10 auto-update uninstalling software

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Windows 10 auto-update uninstalling software

Post by mattg » 2016-01-18 07:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comm ... s_without/
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http://betanews.com/2015/11/24/windows- ... /#comments

In seeming random fashion, I have noticed on one of Windows 10 machines that stuff is being moved, removed and uninstalled. Looks like I'm not alone.

Not happy!!

One of the programs that was uninstalled was a paid, licences version of AVAST Endpoint Security (the business grade AV) that was uninstalled in favour of Windows Defender (which is 'ordinary' at best)

I've had start menu items removed, desktop apps removed, and a heap of MS rubbish that keeps re-appearing even when I 'uninstall' it. Things like games, and other apps that absolutely have no place on a business workstation (this is a Windows 10 Professional upgrade from Windows 8.1 professional).

Bigger issue is that none of the services restarted (this is a download machine in a healthcare environment, so 'services' are things that download pathology and imaging results) following the 'update' until the first user logged on - me when I went looking for results.

Be careful if taking up the free upgrade to Windows 10.
Mind, I have Windows 10 on a heap of machines, this is first one that I've noticed this rubbish on. I only just noticed the 5 second 'message' bottom right of screen when I first logged on, that says 'Avast was uninstalled as it is no longer needed' or something and then the message was gone.
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Re: Windows 10 auto-update uninstalling software

Post by Dravion » 2016-01-18 10:35

Hi Matt,

Iam testing Win 10 in various versions incl. the Windows 10 OEM Version with an Online Microsoft Account for local logins ^^ I can confirm the uninstallation and forcefully installation of System updates (but you can postpone it a few hours). The Enterprise and Education Edition of Windows 10 doesnt do this sort of crap.
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Re: Windows 10 auto-update uninstalling software

Post by katip » 2016-01-18 12:54

Hi,

i haven't seen uninstalled programs yet but default apps set such as IrfanView back to Photo Viewer or mp3 player back to that Groove crap.
IMO it's always a good idea to wait for at least 1st service pack before installing any new Win version on production boxes.
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Post by Dravion » 2016-01-21 08:47

Some details:
Updates to the Services or Software, and Changes to These Terms
We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/
Here is a Newsvideo on the topic:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/ ... ows-10-pc/

User experiments about removing files:
This doesnt only apply to Games. There is a Video on YT where a user downloaded a
cracked Version of a Adobe Program as compressed RAR File. After the user uncompressed the files
within the cracked Adobe Program, some files in the unzipped folder are "automagically" are removed
without any kind of notification. This can be Windows Defender but Defender normally logs such
events or raises a notification popup but not in this case.
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Re: Windows 10 auto-update uninstalling software

Post by mattg » 2018-12-23 23:48

To be honest, I've had this problem so much that I've seriously considered dumping windows completely.

I've had this issue multiple times on some machines, and I've certainly seen it on more than a dozen machines (while hundreds more aren't affected - it really does seem random). Reinstalling Windows doesn't guarantee that the issue won't arise again.

Unfortunately, living without Windows is just not that easily achieved.
I've had line of business software removed in a corporate environment through mandatory updates...

Windows is trying to be too much like iOS I reckon.
Cortana is one thing I get really frustrate with. Uninstall it, and it reappears next update. It is beyond disfunctional, it actively slows users down by doing stupid things like opening a bing search about what control panels are, rather than opening the control panel when you type 'control panel' in the search bar.

Windows Defender is really useless, networking via IPv6 as default in a LAN with no IPv6 WAN access is just such a waste of network resources, network connections defaulting to 'public' when machines are restarted, despite what the registry entries say should happen, ignoring completely the 'busy hours' that you set so that updates shouldn't happen when you are trying to work, and the absolute instance of doing a Windows Update when you have a major event happening, or uni assignment due is almost like the machine is deliberately trying to foil you.
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Re: Windows 10 auto-update uninstalling software

Post by rzane0110 » 2019-02-13 12:00

I do no think that you need a software for that, you can simply go into the control panel and switch off auto updates.

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Post by SorenR » 2019-02-13 18:00

rzane0110 wrote:
2019-02-13 12:00
I do no think that you need a software for that, you can simply go into the control panel and switch off auto updates.
Have you ever used Windows 10 ?
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Re: Windows 10 auto-update uninstalling software

Post by rzane0110 » 2019-04-03 15:38

rzane0110 wrote:
2019-02-13 12:00
I do no think that you need a software for that, you can simply go into the control panel and switch off auto updates.
My bad, I didn't realise it! Of course I have used Win 10. I mean is there any soul who hasn't in 2019? (._.)

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Re: Windows 10 auto-update uninstalling software

Post by SorenR » 2019-04-03 15:55

rzane0110 wrote:
2019-04-03 15:38
rzane0110 wrote:
2019-02-13 12:00
I do no think that you need a software for that, you can simply go into the control panel and switch off auto updates.
My bad, I didn't realise it! Of course I have used Win 10. I mean is there any soul who hasn't in 2019? (._.)
Well, with 1809 Microsoft killed that feature. You can delay updates but eventually they will find you. Also I heard that 1809 is now "business proof"...

Don't forget to backup your stuff... I had a Windows 10 workstation with hMailServer, Windows development and test environment for developing hMailServer code ... Positive side is I have a html file 3 pages long telling me what to install *AGAIN* !

It is now used for https://www.twopointhospital.com/ by my wife :roll:
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