Hello,
This is the first time I am posting to this forum. Firstly, thank you for creating and maintaining hMailServer. It is a fantastic mail server.
I have the following scenarios:
I use Thunderbird as the mail client.
Two accounts are setup on Thunderbird:
1. Smtp account connected to an external mail provider
2. IMAP account connected to hMailserver (local server running Windows 10)
When Smtp account receives an email:
Scenario 1 - Message filter is setup to blindly "Copy" all message to hMailserver.
Scenario 2 - Message filter is setup to blindly "Forward" all message to hMailserver.
On the hMailserver, I created account rules to move the messages to different IMAP folder based on certain subject and who sent the email.
In scenario 1, the account rules did not work(I did not see any log in the log file) and messages were not moved.
Whereas in scenario 2, the rules were applied (it was indicated in the log).
Can any one confirm if account rules are NOT supposed to run in scenario 1?
Please let me know if I am not making sense or this is not the right platform for this question.
thank you.
Rules processing (forward vs copy)
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jimimaseye
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Re: Rules processing (forward vs copy)
run this and post the results: https://www.hmailserver.com/forum/viewt ... 0&t=30914- include RULES when prompted.
HMS 5.6.6 B2383 on Win Server 2008 R2 Foundation, + 5.6.7-B2415 on test.
SpamassassinForWindows 3.4.0 spamd service
AV: Clamwin + Clamd service + sanesecurity defs : https://www.hmailserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=26829
SpamassassinForWindows 3.4.0 spamd service
AV: Clamwin + Clamd service + sanesecurity defs : https://www.hmailserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=26829
Re: Rules processing (forward vs copy)
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2019-06-15 Hmailserver: 5.6.7-B2425
DOMAINS
"Domain1.com" - mmxxxxxxxxxxx.com Enabled: True
SIGNATURE LIMITS DKIM ADVANCED
Enabled: False Max size: 0 Enabled: False
Max message size: 0 Plus addressing: False
Max size of accounts: 0
Greylisting: False
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GLOBAL RULES
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ACCOUNT RULES for sales@Domain1.com:
1, BestDealForwardToAccounting Criteria: Use AND
From Contains bdprint.ca
Subject Contains invoice
-----Actions-----
Forward accounting@Domain1.com
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2, Quote Request Criteria: Use AND
Subject Contains Re: quote request
Subject Not Contains ORDER
-----Actions-----
Move To Folder INBOX.Vendors.Quotes
---------------------------------------------------------------------
3, FactorFormQuote Criteria: Use AND
From Contains factorforms.com
Subject Contains Quote
-----Actions-----
Move To Folder INBOX.Vendors.Quotes
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IP RANGES
IP: 127.0.0.1 - 127.0.0.1 Priority: 15 Name: My computer
Allow connections Other
SMTP: True Antispam : True
POP3: True !! Protocol DISABLED !! Antivirus: True !! ANTIVIRUS NOT CONFIGURED !!
IMAP: True SSL/TLS: False
Allow Deliveries from Require Authentication from
Local To Local - True Local To Local - False
Local To External - True Local To External - False
External To Local - True External To Local - False
External To External - True External To External - True
IP: 0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255 Priority: 10 Name: Internet
Allow connections Other
SMTP: True Antispam : True
POP3: True !! Protocol DISABLED !! Antivirus: True !! ANTIVIRUS NOT CONFIGURED !!
IMAP: True SSL/TLS: False
Allow Deliveries from Require Authentication from
Local To Local - True Local To Local - True
Local To External - True Local To External - True
External To Local - True External To Local - False
External To External - True External To External - True
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AUTOBANNED Local Addresses:
No entries
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AUTOBAN
Autoban Enabled: True Max invalid logon attempts: 3
Minutes Before Reset: 30 (0.50 hours, 0.02 days)
Minutes to Autoban: 60 (1.00 hours, 0.04 days)
There is a total of 6 auto-ban IP ranges.
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INCOMING RELAYS
No entries
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MIRRORING Disabled
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PROTOCOLS
SMTP
GENERAL DELIVERY RFC COMPLIANCE ADVANCED
No. Connections: 0 No Retries: 4 Mins: 60 Plain Text: False Bind:
Host: EXTERNAL.TLD Empty sender: True Batch recipients: 100
Max Msg Size: 40960 Relay:- Incorrect endings: True Use STARTTLS: True
EXTERNAL.TLD (ok) Disc. on invalid: False Delivered-To hdr: False
Port: 465 Loop limit: 5
Req Auth: True *User Entered* Recipient hosts: 15
Con. Sec.: SSL/TLS
Routes:
No routes defined.
POP3
!! Service Not Enabled !!
IMAP
GENERAL PUBLIC FOLDERS ADVANCED
No. Connections: 0 Public folder name: #Public IMAP sort: True
IMAP Quota: True
IMAP Idle: True
IMAP ACL: True
Delim: "."
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ANTISPAM
GENERAL SPAM TESTS Score SPAMASSASSIN
Spam Mark: 5 Use SPF: True - 3 Use Spamassassin: False
Add X-HmailServer-Spam: True Check HELO host: True - 2
Add X-HmailServer-Reason: True Check MX records: True - 2
Add X-HmailServer-Subject: True Verify DKIM: True - 5
Subject Text: "[SPAM]"
Spam delete threshold: 20 Maximum message size: 1024
DNSBL ENTRIES:
zen.spamhaus.org Score: 3 Result: 127.0.0.2-8|127.0.0.10-11
SURBL ENTRIES:
multi.surbl.org Score: 3
GREYLISTING:
Greylisting: True Defer mins: 30 Days Unused: 1 Days Used: 36
Bypass SPF: True Bypass A/MX: False
Greylist WHITELIST ENTRIES:
No entries
Greylist DOMAINS enabled:
!! No active domains enabled - GREYLISTING INEFFECTIVE !!
WHITELISTING
No entries
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ANTIVIRUS: No application configured.
Block Attachments: False
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SSL CERTIFICATES
mmpw
Certificate: C:\\Program Files (x86)\\hMailServer\\Certs\\certificate.crt
Private key: C:\\Program Files (x86)\\hMailServer\\Certs\\privateKey.key
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SSL/TLS
SSL 3.0 : True
TLS 1.0 : True
TLS 1.1 : True
TLS 1.2 : True Verify Remote SSL/TLS Certs: True
SslCipherList :
ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 - ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 - ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 - DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 - DHE-DSS-AES128-GCM-SHA256
kEDH+AESGCM - ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 - ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256
ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA - ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA - ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384
ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA384 - ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA - ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA
DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 - DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA - DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA256
DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256 - DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA - DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA
AES128-GCM-SHA256 - AES256-GCM-SHA384 - ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA
ECDHE-ECDSA-RC4-SHA - AES128 - AES256
RC4-SHA - HIGH - !aNULL
!eNULL - !EXPORT - !DES
!3DES - !MD5 - !PSK;
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TCPIP PORTS Connection Sec
0.0.0.0 / 25 / SMTP - None
0.0.0.0 / 110 / POP3 - None
0.0.0.0 / 143 / IMAP - None
0.0.0.0 / 465 / SMTP - SSL/TLS Cert: mmpw
0.0.0.0 / 587 / IMAP - SSL/TLS Cert: mmpw
0.0.0.0 / 993 / IMAP - SSL/TLS Cert: mmpw
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LOGGING Logging Enabled: True
Paths:-
Current: C:\Program Files (x86)\hMailServer\Logs\hmailserver_2019-06-15.log
Error: C:\Program Files (x86)\hMailServer\Logs\ERROR_hmailserver_2019-06-15.log
Event: C:\Program Files (x86)\hMailServer\Logs\hmailserver_events.log - Not present
Awstats: C:\Program Files (x86)\hMailServer\Logs\hmailserver_awstats.log
APPLICATION - True
SMTP - True
POP3 - True
IMAP - True
TCPIP - True
DEBUG - True
AWSTATS - .
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SYSTEM TESTS
Database type: PostgreSQL
IPv6 support is available in operating system.
ERROR: Backup directory has not been specified.
Relative message paths are stored in the database for all messages.
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HMAILSERVER.INI
[Directories]
Program folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\hMailServer\
Database folder:
Data folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\hMailServer\Data
Log folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\hMailServer\Logs
Temp folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\hMailServer\Temp
Event folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\hMailServer\Events
[Database]
Type= PostgreSQL
Username= postgres
PasswordEncryption=1
Port= 5432
Server= localhost
Internal= 0
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Re: Rules processing (forward vs copy)
So how is the SMTP account connected to hMailserver? How is hMailserver getting this mail? Via a thunderbiord rule?mmpfred wrote: ↑2019-06-15 01:18I use Thunderbird as the mail client.
Two accounts are setup on Thunderbird:
1. Smtp account connected to an external mail provider
2. IMAP account connected to hMailserver (local server running Windows 10)
When Smtp account receives an email:
Scenario 1 - Message filter is setup to blindly "Copy" all message to hMailserver.
Scenario 2 - Message filter is setup to blindly "Forward" all message to hMailserver.
Why are you setting account rules on hmailserver?
But, Aren't you copying the message using thunderbird rules?
I'm really lost.
Why don't you ALSO use hmailserver's external account to download mail from the SMTP server, and then run your rules in hMailserver
Just 'cause I link to a page and say little else doesn't mean I am not being nice.
https://www.hmailserver.com/documentation
https://www.hmailserver.com/documentation
Re: Rules processing (forward vs copy)
Correct. All emails are Forwarded (Scenario 1) or Copied (Scenario 2) to hMailServer via Thunderbird message filters.
Sorry...that is because I haven't given you any explanation.
I inherited this setup from my predecessor. My PC (so as other people in the organization) is currently receiving email from the service provider via POP3. There is no server, just a bunch of PCs in a workgroup.
I setup hMailServer in hope to move the emails to the server. Once hMailServer goes live, the POP3 access will be terminated (for all PCs) and hMailServer will receive all eMails and everyone will connect to hMailServer via IMAP.
As part of the test phase (and pre-populate hMailServer), emails are copied to hMailServer via Thunderbird message filters. Rules are setup on the hMailServer to move email around so that they are a bit more organized.
I was not able to get the rules to move the emails around until I changed the Thrunderbird filter to 'Forward' email to hMailServer.
I didn't think of that option and I don't know how to do that. Can I do that via POP3? Would you provide some instructions please?
I can access the email from my service provider via either POP3 or IMAP. My predecessor had huge problem with IMAP previously so I am not willing to risk anything at the moment.
Thank you for your help.
Re: Rules processing (forward vs copy)
Each account on hMailserver has an External accounts tab
https://www.hmailserver.com/documentati ... al_account
https://www.hmailserver.com/documentati ... al_account
Just 'cause I link to a page and say little else doesn't mean I am not being nice.
https://www.hmailserver.com/documentation
https://www.hmailserver.com/documentation
Re: Rules processing (forward vs copy)
Thank you! mattg.
I will work on that this week.
I will work on that this week.
Re: Rules processing (forward vs copy)
Everything is good. Thank you for your suggestion.
Re: Rules processing (forward vs copy)
Thanks for the post back
Just 'cause I link to a page and say little else doesn't mean I am not being nice.
https://www.hmailserver.com/documentation
https://www.hmailserver.com/documentation