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daz69

I'd be surprised if it was Matt, clamd on the server but at the moment I'm quarantining all zip and doc extensions as they come in. I think maybe BAM might be on the right track, I restored the mysql onto a test machine and there was a record with a stupidly high message size, way over what's config...

daz69

Thanks for the replies, I tried everything over the last couple of days, I too thought that idle may be a problem, especially with the multiple connections per client but disabling didn't help. Fortunately I think I've tracked it down a couple of hours ago with MySQL logs and wireshark etc to a part...

daz69

I thought Microsoft too, but no patches in the last 4 or 5 days, smart data checks out ok too.

I'll shut it down later and do a check the disk out.

But would that explain the abnormal memory usage?

daz69

Hi Matt

It's been replaced by the standard hMail message under that filename saying 'does not exist' etc

I'm thinking I may have lost sync and those messages were deleted previously but the database doesn't reflect that.

daz69

Over the last couple of days I've had an issue on one of my servers with users complaining that Outlook is very slow at browsing and that they only see new mail if they restart outlook. After restarting, the hMailserver process starts around a normal memory usage then jumps to 1Gb+, the logs seem to...

daz69

I haven't got any similar emails to test with but what about
TO Not Contains '@'

daz69

If you have add X-hMailServer-Spam ticked in General Anti-spam page AND your message hits the Spam mark threshold then a criteria of:
X-hMailServer-Spam EQUALS YES
normally works.

daz69

Where did I get Public folders from? - must have seen it somewhere else.

daz69

In Settings>Protocols>IMAP there is the Public folder name and the hierarchy delimiter, it you haven't changed these then you would reference public folders in the form of:

#Public.myfoldername

daz69

Yes - global rules are easier but bear in mind they will apply to all accounts across all domains (I guess thats the global aspect ;)), I don't tend to create rules for specific spamming email addresses as they change constantly, subject and/or body contains keywords works better but I think I've on...

daz69

I started using hMail to have more spam options and initially ran with Spam Assassin for a few months. Now I just use greylisting, a few DNSBL/SURBS lists and a few targeted contains rules and for example on a domain that gets up to 1000 spam messages a day maybe one or two get through to users inbo...

daz69

SA has to be taught with a minimum number of spam and ham messages, I forget how many.

daz69

Thanks for working on that matt - its been on my to do list.

daz69

Have you tried greylisting?

daz69

The data folders are different in those logs, do you have a simon and a simonm account?

daz69

You need to use contains not equals when checking for an address in the from field as it is using the SMTP envelope, but what about using an alias?

daz69

That log is the client checking if there's any mail to pick up from the hmail server, you need the log from when the sending server tried to deliver the message to hmail.

and what emails are you expecting from spamhouse?

daz69

Maybe to be on the safe side you should do a surface scan just to rule out any physical disk errors.

daz69

Have you restarted the hmail service?

daz69

What I was thinking is that you could probably imap into the account, create a new temp folder, move all the messages from the inbox over to it. Then copy all the messages you want to receive again back to the inbox - hmail will redownload them as new messages - just tried it and it works.

daz69

Are you saying that you've configured it to leave a copy on the server after pop download - ie if you imap'd (if poss) you could still see the messages?

daz69

There is already a script provided with the hmail installation (the latest, not sure about previous versions) Look in addons then utilities (from memory) removeUnusedAccounts.vbs or somthing like that. I seem to remember it used last log on date like matt suggested and needs configuring prior to run...

daz69

I run the same script on one of my small servers and it always returns 0x0.
I was always under the impression that (0×0) meant success and (0×1) meant File or path not found, I'm not familiar with 0x01.

daz69

Sounds like maybe some sort of session limit being hit by the firewall, I don't know about yours but some allow you to define a general limit or by ip or maybe it just can't handle that many at once.

daz69

The entry under Settings>Advanced>IP ranges shows you that there is currently an autoban(s) in operation (in red) and from there you can highlight an entry and delete it therefore allowing access again.

daz69

What is the Outlook error? Is the Outlook machine the same as the hMail server or another machine on the same LAN or a remote machine connecting over the internet? Do the hmail logs show anything when you try to connect? If it is on another machine on the same LAN then does it work if you use the lo...

daz69

Do you know that it appears as a new entry under Settings>Advanced>IP ranges with autoban:whatever highlighted in red?

daz69

SMTPD is between your client and hmail
SMTPC is hmail and external servers

Under status there is a live log facility.

daz69

Its in everyones interest to stop this happening, if you're happy there's no legit emails you can clear the outbound queue via the status option. There's either an open relay situation still going on - either from the internet or from an infection on your server (but the external ips don't support t...

daz69

but I know that IMAP folder information isn't stored in the database anyway so all messages will be dumped into the INBOX of the relevant account, losing the folder structure so bear that in mind. Apologies, somehow my fingers typed the opposite thing to what my brain was saying, the IMAP folder st...

daz69

Have you checked the tables for errors? - its certainly not acting like it should, on my system queued messages are always in those tables, even when I physically delete the file from the DATA directory, even after that they always respond to 'clear/delete'. If its not that I'd go back to my earlier...

daz69

It also looks like there will be a reference to it in hm_messagerecipients too. I think the hm_message_metadata table is used for message indexing so shouldn't be populated in this case. I've never manually deleted a message from the db so I'm not 100% sure that there won't be any broken references ...

daz69

I'm about 20 miles from there but I've never been too impressed with tortoises, but don't ask me to explain the anatomical differences. Whilst in Germany a few years ago I once witnessed a tortoise 'gang' rush over to a poor little tortoise and flip him over, I still have nightmares. Well, when I sa...

daz69

Have a look at the DBSetup program in the bin folder, it walks you through creating a new default database and normally runs when you initially install hMail. Maybe best to try this on a TEST MACHINE with MySQL installed and working. Install hMail from scratch, it should ask you what type of default...

daz69

If something other than hMail has deleted the message file as Matt said its probably down to realtime AV scanning of the hMail data directory, if thats the case check the quarantine, you may be able to restore the file. I just recreated on a 64bit machine: got a message to queue then physically dele...

daz69

I'm jealous, my kids would go nuts too. There are no turtles in Cornwall, just seagulls.
And tourists.
And the highest water bills in the uk.

daz69

Yeah, I think hMail was seeing the valid account name of catchall@ in the header and delivering to that as well.

Glad you got it sorted.

daz69

hMail definately thinks it needs to deliver a message to catchall@ as well as phil@ Delivering message from Phil@gmail.com to Phil@external.address, catchall@external.address. File: C:\Program Files (x86)\hMailServer\Data\{D3E8952F-47D3-4A42-883C-D46CAE7643A6}.eml I can see some potential confusion ...

daz69

Does it persist after restarting the service or rebooting the server?

daz69

I'm sure your brain could cope

, I guess it depends whether you want to commit the time to it and whether you'll benefit hugely from it in the end.

daz69

It sounds like you're confused about mx records and how email is routed. Have a read of Dooms' overview. http://www.hmailserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=17396 If you want to receive email from outside your local network you need to configure MX and A records that point to the external ip of yo...

daz69

Ok, I've just tested it through on one of my servers. I created one account on an external test server: daz@ I created two accounts in hMail daz@ and test@ I configured test@ to download from the external daz@ and deliver to mime recipients. hMail did what it should; test@ downloaded the message and...

daz69

I get what you're saying, you've configured an account in hMail called catchall@ (it's name could be anything) it downloads from your external pop mailbox that really is a catchall account and delivers to the mime header address(es). I agree with you that I would expect hmailserver to download the m...

daz69

Hey Daz, I'm not knocking your suggestion at all. Its ok matt, i'm not that sensitive :D Of course the other way to look at it is that it shouldn't be too easy and there should always be some technical hurdles to overcome forming a kind of natural selection helping to exclude dangerous elements fro...

daz69

Bill48105 wrote:daz69, how do you think WE test it? We install it!

I thought you used your magic powers.. the illusion is shattered.

I'll load one of my less busy servers with 5.4 tomorrow and see how it goes...

daz69

I was thinking of it querying a realtime list of available test servers... but I understand what you're saying, lets get the new engine started rather than talking about what colour the furry dice are. I should install 5.4 and help it progress from beta, but I havent got a server with correct domain...

daz69

It would give a headstart with outbound problems, how many times have you written; Please can you please enable all logging recreate the issue, wait 90 seconds and post the entire log Inbound problems most likely due to mx would be apparent from checking the hostname supplied in the zip but the logs...

daz69

I wonder if there's any mileage in having one 'Diagnostic dump' button that when pressed dumps a selective config to file and then asks the user for an existing local email address then temporarily enables all logging to 'special' diag logfiles, sends a test message to a random test server (provided...

daz69

So these are you current servers? 0 mx01.hmc1.comcast.net 76.96.53.13 60 min 10 mq02.hmc1.comcast.net 76.96.53.9 60 min Basically you need to setup a 'mail' A record pointing to your server public ip and then at least one mx record pointing to mail.yourdomain.com Doom posted a nice general guide whi...

daz69

Sounds like you're well on the way

If you've got all green in the diagnostics it implies you've got good DNS.

Have you made the changes to your DNS records?
Whats your domain name?

daz69

I've noticed that when dealing with new users configuration issues via the forum it can take many posts to glean the basic setup info: version no, ports, ip ranges etc. I think would be far less painful if within the diagnostic section there was an option to export a limited config for upload to the...

daz69

I get the same for your server with those tests, all my servers pass fine so something is different.

What version of hMail are you on?

Can you do some screenshots when you select 'IP ranges' and then when you select the sub-category 'internet' and post please.

daz69

mail.dbase-systems.com resolves to 217.7. 120 .226 - I can't see that its on any blacklists. You said your ip was 217.7. 210 .226 - that is on some blacklists. I tried mail.dbase-systems.com on a few open relay testers - passed no problem, here's mxtoolbox. 220 mail.dbase-systems.com ESMTP OK - 217....

daz69

What you can do is send spam email that go over the delete threshold to a spam account rather than deleting it Thats what I do with the Public Spam folder, you always get some users that never check but just moan instead, so its good to nominate a company 'Spam Champion' ...they even get a badge :w...

daz69

No, emails that hit the delete threshold are rejected during the SMTP conversation, letting the sender know that it wasn't accepted, any message files are deleted. I tend to monitor borderline spams by having a rule that moves all messages between the spam mark and delete thresholds to a public fold...

daz69

What about not using the mirror feature but having all the emails ending up in a Public IMAP folder instead of trying to forward/delete to an address. if To contains @ then move to IMAP folder if From contains @ move to IMAP folder I tested the outgoing with contains test@ and it worked fine and con...

daz69

After you click 'Edit folders' - you come to the 'Folders' window you have to right-click on the left hand box then 'create folder'.

After that you can highlight your newly created folder and add permissions to it.

I can remember asking the same question, the right click isn't obvious.

daz69

I can't see any mx records.

mx:droidscout.com mx

No records found
Reported by ns40.domaincontrol.com on Friday, March 11, 2011 at 7:14:40 AM (GMT-6)

daz69

Luckily my German is fluent (and there's an english link top right ;)) Unless I missed something they are only talking about outgoing mail; As a result of the introduction of the new spam filter, e-mail that is sent with SMTP authentication via port 25 can no longer be sent. In such cases, the port ...

daz69

So i guess you want to end up with a valid xml to import back into your system to append/amend the new records. Being xmls I would do it at a database level, its very much like an insurance db I was asked to do recently. Is the structure basically: PatientID .......HistoryID .......HistoryID If so t...

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