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Getting Different Presentaion Of hMailServer Forum Topics

Post by jim.bus » 2019-10-03 12:05

I reported a short while ago that I periodically now get Forum Email Post Notifications which have Forum links without https. Instead they start with http. So I had to do unsecure logins to hMailServer in those instances and hMailServer Forum itself showed http in the URL which meant everything was unsecure.

I got the http link again a couple of minutes ago and this time I noticed that the Forum Topics in General Discussions were different (older perhaps about a half month or so in the past) Topics than had been there about an hour or two ago. I logged out of the Forum and then logged back in again and voila, what looked like the current Topics (current dates/times) from an hour or Two ago reappeared.

It's looking like somehow an older version of the Forum Topics are being loaded when the http links appear in the Forum Email Notifications.

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Re: Getting Different Presentaion Of hMailServer Forum Topics

Post by palinka » 2019-10-03 12:44

Are you flushing cookies when you exit the browser, like in private window mode? What browser are you using? Try wiping your browser cache.

The forum is working fine. Http links always forward to https for me. I think there's something wrong with your browser.

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Re: Getting Different Presentaion Of hMailServer Forum Topics

Post by jim.bus » 2019-10-03 19:27

palinka wrote:
2019-10-03 12:44
Are you flushing cookies when you exit the browser, like in private window mode? What browser are you using? Try wiping your browser cache.

The forum is working fine. Http links always forward to https for me. I think there's something wrong with your browser.
I am using latest version of Firefox and the problem at least with the http part of the issue is intermittent on the same browser. Plus it doesn't act like a browser problem as the http link is present in the Forum Email Notification Email. When I don't have the problem the Forum Email Notification Email actually comes with an https link not the http link and it is only on the http link that there seems to be a problem.

So am I to understand when you get an Email Notification Email that the link does come as http at least on occasion and on those occasions when it comes as an http link it will redirect to an https links. But even so I would think a different presentation of the Forum Topics would still be strange because I was looking at apparently an older set of Topics when last night I had the http link and as soon as I logged out an manually connected which went to https then I got the current set of Topics.

I will look to see if I can wipe the Browser Cache. I am pretty much using a default setting of Firefox changing only things like Home Page and setting option to save downloads to always ask where to save download to. But I am not setting up the Email Notification Email this is coming from the Topic someone else has entered and I am Responding to and as far as I know I just have all the Notification Options set under my Profile.

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Post by mattg » 2019-10-04 01:39

I'm getting http: rather than https: at times too
I suspect that this website isn't set to automatically redirect to https:
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Post by jimimaseye » 2019-10-04 09:00

Can't say I've noticed as i have the forum permanently open in the browser (and i simply refresh). I never access it by the links in the emails.

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Re: Getting Different Presentaion Of hMailServer Forum Topics

Post by palinka » 2019-10-04 12:14

mattg wrote:
2019-10-04 01:39
I'm getting http: rather than https: at times too
I suspect that this website isn't set to automatically redirect to https:
Are you using firefox also? I'm using Brave and i haven't had any of these issues. I tried manually typing in http and it automatically forwarded to https.

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Post by jim.bus » 2019-10-04 13:03

Now you see my Email Notification gives me https links for me to click on and so I come in on this Topic with a Secure Logon and I created this Topic using Firefox so I would think that would mean it's not likely Firefox is causing it at least not on the current version and there was a recent update to Firefox I believe less than a week ago. And it's the Forum software that is sending the Email Notifications and generating the links. Also, I tried taking the Email Notification Link and changing the http to https and the link wouldn't work which might be an indication why I am seeing older Form Topics on the http or at least the last time I got such an Email Notification and I just happened to notice it that last time which is why created this Topic but I also seem to remember seeing something strange happening with the Postings in a Topic too such that some of my Postings didn't get saved even though I had verified they were saved at the time I posted them.

Remember also didn't Martin do some kind of update to the Forum not too long ago around the time he showed up recently? Perhaps something in that update caused this behavior.

Also have you noticed that in a couple of Postings prior to this in my Topic, there is the following Post for a Topic unrelated to my Topic and seemingly unrelated to hMailServer Forum. At least what is talked about in this Post seems to have no relation to hMailServer. Below is the Post I am talking about. When I went up to the Topic and Copied and Pasted it into this Post, it also copied in the Re: Getting Different Presentaion of hMailServer Forum Topics which is the Topic subject of this Forum I created but I didn't copy that with the rest of the Post which you see directly below it. Also when I go back to where in this Topic I copied it from the 'Font Color of No Guarantor Payday Loans' was Bolded Black plus there was no 'Re:' as though this was the first entry of this Topic. Something strange is happening in these Forum Topics intermittently.

I also just looked in General Discussion Forum and there is a Post for a Topic on Pakistani Wedding Photography which sort of looks real strange and something like the Post that was inserted into this (my) Topic. It's like someone hacked into the hMailServer Forum.

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Post by mattg » 2019-10-05 07:56

palinka wrote:
2019-10-04 12:14
Are you using firefox also? I'm using Brave and i haven't had any of these issues. I tried manually typing in http and it automatically forwarded to https.
I'm currently using Waterfox for this forum, so yes a firefox offshoot
I'll try a different browser.
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Post by mattg » 2019-10-05 07:58

jim.bus wrote:
2019-10-04 13:03
I also just looked in General Discussion Forum and there is a Post for a Topic on Pakistani Wedding Photography
We get a dozen or so spam posts per week

We just delete and BanHammer the poster
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Re: Getting Different Presentaion Of hMailServer Forum Topics

Post by jim.bus » 2019-10-05 08:34

mattg wrote:
2019-10-05 07:58
jim.bus wrote:
2019-10-04 13:03
I also just looked in General Discussion Forum and there is a Post for a Topic on Pakistani Wedding Photography
We get a dozen or so spam posts per week

We just delete and BanHammer the poster
I was directed to this Topic with two different Email Notifications this time both this time using http links and both http links were different. All the other times the Email Notification Links to this Topic (my Topic) were delivered to me with https links.

Also I had edited my last Post to include one of the foreign Topics I referred to which had been embedded in the Responses to this Topic (my Topic). Plus that foreign Topic has now disappeared from this Topic. The Pakistani Weddings Topic was a Topic which was shown as a completely separate Topic from this Topic to show that somehow some Topic response which appeared to not be hMailServer got inserted into my Topic Thread.

Plus when I submitted this Posting, it wouldn't submit and I had log out of the forum and I got out of Firefox then opened browser which opened this time as https since I didn't come in from a link, logged on again and now I could Post this Quoted Response.

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Post by jimimaseye » 2019-10-05 11:14

jim.bus wrote:
2019-10-05 08:34
Also I had edited my last Post to include one of the foreign Topics I referred to which had been embedded in the Responses to this Topic (my Topic). Plus that foreign Topic has now disappeared from this Topic. The Pakistani Weddings Topic was a Topic which was shown as a completely separate Topic from this Topic to show that somehow some Topic response which appeared to not be hMailServer got inserted into my Topic Thread.
FYI i deleted the threads and edited your post to remove the link/ reference.

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Post by jim.bus » 2019-10-05 13:11

jimimaseye wrote:
2019-10-05 11:14
jim.bus wrote:
2019-10-05 08:34
Also I had edited my last Post to include one of the foreign Topics I referred to which had been embedded in the Responses to this Topic (my Topic). Plus that foreign Topic has now disappeared from this Topic. The Pakistani Weddings Topic was a Topic which was shown as a completely separate Topic from this Topic to show that somehow some Topic response which appeared to not be hMailServer got inserted into my Topic Thread.
FYI i deleted the threads and edited your post to remove the link/ reference.

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Yes, I understand the reasoning but in this case that editing and deleting added to the confusion as this Topic was to report problems with the Forum software I had observed and what you removed and edited out removed evidence possibly of more problems which could have been a part of what I had already observed. From my perspective, I saw yet more evidence of unexplained behavior of the Forum. Now I have an explanation for what happened to the missing Threads and the piece of my Post which documented the disappearance.

Thanks for clearing that up.

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Post by palinka » 2019-10-05 14:10

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Post by jimimaseye » 2019-10-05 20:49

jim.bus wrote:
2019-10-03 12:05
I reported a short while ago that I periodically now get Forum Email Post Notifications which have Forum links without https. Instead they start with http. So I had to do unsecure logins to hMailServer in those instances and hMailServer Forum itself showed http in the URL which meant everything was unsecure.

I got the http link again a couple of minutes ago and this time I noticed that the Forum Topics in General Discussions were different (older perhaps about a half month or so in the past) Topics than had been there about an hour or two ago. I logged out of the Forum and then logged back in again and voila, what looked like the current Topics (current dates/times) from an hour or Two ago reappeared.

It's looking like somehow an older version of the Forum Topics are being loaded when the http links appear in the Forum Email Notifications.
Like this:
20191005_194439.jpg

And then

20191005_194500.jpg


Yep. Strange.

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Post by jim.bus » 2019-10-05 21:16

jimimaseye wrote:
2019-10-05 20:49
jim.bus wrote:
2019-10-03 12:05
I reported a short while ago that I periodically now get Forum Email Post Notifications which have Forum links without https. Instead they start with http. So I had to do unsecure logins to hMailServer in those instances and hMailServer Forum itself showed http in the URL which meant everything was unsecure.

I got the http link again a couple of minutes ago and this time I noticed that the Forum Topics in General Discussions were different (older perhaps about a half month or so in the past) Topics than had been there about an hour or two ago. I logged out of the Forum and then logged back in again and voila, what looked like the current Topics (current dates/times) from an hour or Two ago reappeared.

It's looking like somehow an older version of the Forum Topics are being loaded when the http links appear in the Forum Email Notifications.
Like this:

20191005_194439.jpg


And then


20191005_194500.jpg



Yep. Strange.

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Yes except, of course, my email Notification looks different because I use Outlook but the language looks similar as well as the link. One other strange thing is that the presentation of the actual Forum Topics meaning how old they are isn't consistent in what you will see. Even when I get the http link in the email the Topics can still be what appears to be the current set of Topics. It only is on occasion that I get different Topics than what I have been seeing routinely as the current set up Topics. And I can't be sure it is the http links when I see the different set of Topics as I only have had one time when I noticed this difference in Topics with the http link but I have seen what I believe was this issue before as well but at that time did not notice what type of link I was on from the Email Notification.

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Post by jim.bus » 2019-10-05 21:22

palinka wrote:
2019-10-05 14:10
jimimaseye wrote:
2019-10-05 11:14
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Must have been the ship you were stationed on when you were in the Marines!

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Post by palinka » 2019-10-07 13:07

jim.bus wrote:
2019-10-05 21:22
Must have been the ship you were stationed on when you were in the Marines!
Eh.. I'm not 120 years old, nor am i British. Anyway holystoning is a job for swabbies and squids and never Marines. :mrgreen:

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Post by jim.bus » 2019-10-07 20:59

palinka wrote:
2019-10-07 13:07
jim.bus wrote:
2019-10-05 21:22
Must have been the ship you were stationed on when you were in the Marines!
Eh.. I'm not 120 years old, nor am i British. Anyway holystoning is a job for swabbies and squids and never Marines. :mrgreen:
You have to allow me poetic license and I didn't say these were marines just that you were stationed on it.

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Post by SorenR » 2019-10-08 01:17

palinka wrote:
2019-10-07 13:07
jim.bus wrote:
2019-10-05 21:22
Must have been the ship you were stationed on when you were in the Marines!
Eh.. I'm not 120 years old, nor am i British. Anyway holystoning is a job for swabbies and squids and never Marines. :mrgreen:
How do you think marines learn to take orders and become marines?

I believe the danish "Frogmen" still do something similar to holystoning during their 9 month training. Our future king, Crown prince Frederik, is a frogman ... and he was also on the Sirius Patrol in Greenland. It's like being a Brittish SAS AND a Norwegian MJK at the same time.

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That being said, who’s bright idea was it to give Vikings assault weapons and equipment? Look what they did with axes, sword and wooden longboats. Just saying
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Post by palinka » 2019-10-08 01:46

SorenR wrote:
2019-10-08 01:17
T. Scott Randolph, former Sgt. Helo Assault Special Ops Capable at U.S. Marine Corps (1992-1998)

I have worked for and with Special Forces from many countries. They are all very tough and effective, otherwise they would just be “the Army” and not “Special”.

That being said, who’s bright idea was it to give Vikings assault weapons and equipment? Look what they did with axes, sword and wooden longboats. Just saying
Heh.. that was me 87-91. SOC qualified. :mrgreen:
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It's not as big a deal as it sounds. Or maybe that's just perspective speaking. :wink:

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Post by mattg » 2019-10-08 02:07

Is that an M16 + Bipod

My time in 'the green' wasn't nearly so exciting as to be called 'special'.
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Post by palinka » 2019-10-08 02:43

mattg wrote:
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Is that an M16 + Bipod

My time in 'the green' wasn't nearly so exciting as to be called 'special'.
SAW: squad automatic weapon.5.56 belt fed machine gun. Only civilians put a bipod on a m16/ar15. And a bottle of cheap liquor we bought from some hobo in the wrong place at the wrong time. :mrgreen:

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