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add verify e-mail account Function

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Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by yon » 2012-02-02 22:48

I am using mail gataway send mail to hmail server. How to verify e-mail account?

So I think add minger and auto creat account list file Function.
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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by mattg » 2012-02-03 00:51

Again, this can be easily done within a script I reckon.

Some form of 'create account' web page.
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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by yon » 2012-02-03 16:49

mattg wrote:Again, this can be easily done within a script I reckon.

Some form of 'create account' web page.
not, I think not need script, it is need hmail server for support auto verification. such as: minger
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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by mattg » 2012-02-04 03:55

Can you post a link to something that describes 'minger' that way that you understand it.

This is what Google found for me
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minger
minger

a male or female who fell out of the ugly tree at birth and hit every branch on the way down
Not very nice, and not related in any way to auto verification process...
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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by dzekas » 2012-02-04 07:41

mattg wrote:Can you post a link to something that describes 'minger' that way that you understand it.

This is what Google found for me
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minger
minger

a male or female who fell out of the ugly tree at birth and hit every branch on the way down
Not very nice, and not related in any way to auto verification process...
Maybe M and F are close on some keyboards. Users are looked up with 'finger' command on some systems.

In email world proper command is VRFY. Security people tend to disable VRFY due to abuse.

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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by dzekas » 2012-02-04 13:58

yon wrote:not, I think not need script, it is need hmail server for support auto verification. such as: minger
hMailServer has enough COM API options to verify or list accounts. Matt is right. You can do that with custom script or tool using available application APIs. Unix finger is independent tool and not integral part of the system.

SMTP VRFY is disabled or not implemented for a reason. You can't rely on it. If email server design is not monolithic, SMTP service does not have access to user data.

Your request does not require changes in hMailServer itself. SMTP VRFY support request might be acceptable, but most of security conscious admins will turn it off the moment they see it.

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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by ^DooM^ » 2012-02-04 14:51

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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by dzekas » 2012-02-04 14:58

Same problem as with VRFY. Huge privacy hole and spammer's heaven.

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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by ^DooM^ » 2012-02-04 19:13

I think it would be useful but only if you could limit the command to specific IP's such as a backup MX. Other than that i wouldn't bother with it.
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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by yon » 2012-02-13 21:30

I would like to solve the problem is:if we use backup mail server or mail gateway server,then these mail server how know hmail server account data and other data? For safety,we can use setup account and password for share data.

Now I have use mdaemon mail server for ipv4 and using it with mail gataway for hmail server receive ipv4 mail.
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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by dzekas » 2012-02-13 23:10

yon wrote:I would like to solve the problem is:if we use backup mail server or mail gateway server,then these mail server how know hmail server account data and other data? For safety,we can use setup account and password for share data.

Now I have use mdaemon mail server for ipv4 and using it with mail gataway for hmail server receive ipv4 mail.
Sometimes your backup mx is running when primary is down. That's the whole point of having secondary mx. If primary mx is down, your secondary can't verify accounts on it either. You need an option to export list of accounts from hmailserver and option to use that exported data for user verification on secondary mx, which can be hmailserver or something else.

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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by Bill48105 » 2012-02-14 03:28

dzekas is right, fatal flaw is secondary can't ask primary if it is down. :D

On my to do is to add ability to sync secondary user accounts between servers. (So Users list on secondary is always up to date with the primary)

In the meantime that is why I altered hmail 5.4 to 4xx TEMP FAIL if secondary user does not exist for my own purposes long ago. To me it made more sense to temp fail on secondary if the user didn't exist on the backup domain rather than 5xx perm fail since it is almost impossible to keep the user list updated. The idea is that eventually the primary will come back up & accept the email rather than it bouncing immediately as was the case before.
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Re: Add Minger and account Verification support

Post by yon » 2012-02-20 22:15

well.., now I have running two mail server and do mail gateway one of server, then other mail server how get data from hmail server?

it should called two primary mail server. :wink:
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